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Best Values in Public Colleges for 2008-2009
Some surprising up-and-comers challenge familiar names.
By Jane Bennett Clark, Senior Associate Editor
From Kiplinger's Personal Finance magazine, December 2008
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At the University of Virginia, the sense of history is as strong as the scent of boxwood. Students live and study in buildings designed by Thomas Jefferson. They tote their backpacks past fat white columns that line the walkways he created, duck into the gardens he envisioned and catch glimpses of the mountains he delighted in.
Some speak English as a second language and others with a Vuh-ginia drawl, but they all soon learn the vocabulary of this Academical Village. It's "The Grounds," not the campus; "The Lawn," not the quad; "first year," not freshman; and always, "Mr. Jefferson."
Students talented enough to be admitted to Mr. Jefferson's village -- and to the other public institutions in Kiplinger's 2008-09 rankings of the best values in public colleges and universities -- are also smart enough to recognize the bargain they're getting.
Of our 100 top schools, led by the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, fewer than two dozen cost more than $20,000 a year for in-state students; the University of Florida, ranked number two, keeps total in-state costs below $12,000. In contrast, private colleges have lately averaged about $33,000 a year, and some have reached a heart-stopping $50,000.
But the deals on our list aren't restricted to in-state students. At Binghamton University (SUNY), which takes the top spot in value for out-of-state students, non-New Yorkers pay $22,260, only about one-third more than in-state students, to enjoy the can-do culture of this young research institution. UNC-Chapel Hill charges $30,629 a year to out-of-state Tar Heels. That's not chump change, but it's cheap compared with the $50,000-plus sticker price at Duke University, a top-tier private school (and UNC competitor) in nearby Durham.
These schools have established a consistently firm footing at the top of our rankings. But you should also admire the up-and-comers, such as the University of Maryland-College Park, which catapulted to number nine from number 28 last year, thanks to a lower student-faculty ratio and a big jump in graduation rates. West Chester University of Pennsylvania wins the "Most Improved" award: It leaped a whopping 40 slots, from 93 to 53, after boosting graduation rates and offering more need-based aid. George Mason University, in Virginia, climbed from 77 to 46 as a result of improving its test scores and moving more graduates across the stage in four and six years.
Forecast: higher costs
Will the economic turmoil of 2008 affect the ability of these colleges to deliver great value to next year's class? For institutions such as UNC-Chapel Hill and the University of Virginia, which have huge endowments and juggernaut fund-raising efforts, probably not; they have the resources to keep operations running relatively smoothly. Leonard Sandridge, executive vice-president and chief operating officer at the University of Virginia, says that despite cuts in state funding and negative endowment returns for the most recent quarter, "If we've managed as well as we intend to, the customer will not experience a cutback."

Reader Comments (96)
Posted by: Lauren at 10/31/2008 08:57:42 PM
Interestingly, in the top ten there is just one school west of Mississippi, west, in fact, of the Atlantic seaboard!
Posted by: R. F. Lester at 11/01/2008 07:44:12 PM
What about Colorado School of Mines?
Posted by: Burt Lowe at 11/01/2008 09:43:28 PM
Does not the University of Wyoming exist?
Posted by: Jim S at 11/02/2008 07:25:01 AM
Real quality report. U of Michigan is #26 and #86.
Posted by: north dakota at 11/02/2008 07:28:10 AM
None of the North Dakota schools were listed even though they are high quality schools at bargain prices listed in the top tier of affordable schools for residents and non residents alike in other rankings.
Posted by: Diane at 11/02/2008 07:52:08 AM
What about West Virginia University?
Posted by: Dr. T at 11/02/2008 08:55:13 AM
The price of college has gone "waaaay over the top" over the past decade where the public is held hostage in the name of a "better job/future". Students end up with college being the cost of a new home and spend many years of their lives paying off a debt that was caused by greedy academicians needing to build monuments to their vanity.
Posted by: Alex Salomon at 11/02/2008 09:45:41 AM
At the risk of being a sore loser, I give a shout out for my alma mater and one other school, both of which didn't make your list. I realize not every school can make a top 100 list like yours, but the Peterson criteria used ignore some important criteria, I feel. The 2 schools I'm referring to are Temple and Wayne State, both large urban universities with many, many academic programs at both undergraduate and graduate levels. Both schools are very affordable, especially for in-state students.Although security is excellent at both Temple and Wayne State...both are in rough, more economically-strapped cities within economically-challenged states, (so) they don't attract as many upscale, suburban, better-prepared students as a lot of schools on your list. This reflects in the SAT and 4 and 5 year graduation rates. Many, many students at Temple and Wayne State have to work while in school, delaying graduation. What schools like Temple and Wayne State offer is the chance for engagement in urban community programs, coop experience, and internships. Also, there is greater opportunity for undergraduate involvement in faculty research, especially without a huge army of grad students and postdocs (although there are some at Temple and Wayne State) compared with some of the bigger name schools on your list. Applicants to colleges should explore as many schools as possible to learn about what schools have to offer that isn't reflected on ranking lists.
Posted by: Kevin at 11/04/2008 08:24:17 PM
I am glad to see SUNY Geneseo is again rated in the top 10 colleges on this list. It is considered the SUNY honors college by many and it is a great place to study and spend four years of your life.
Posted by: Marilyn Manning at 11/05/2008 10:37:34 AM
I am wondering why Millersville Univeristy of Pennsylvania is not on the list since it has been in previous years.
Posted by: Blaine Cole at 11/06/2008 08:35:09 AM
Please tell me how UNC, UNC Wilmington, UNC Greensboro, and UNC Asheville, are on the list while UNC Charlotte was left off? UNC Charlotte is a great school. It has many more programs than Asheville, Greensboro, or Wilmington, especially for graduate studies. It is known throughout the region for excellence in engineering, nursing, education and business. Its costs would be comparable to all the schools listed above. I attended UNC-W and graduated from UNC-C so I am familiar with both. Please explain.
Posted by: BBH at 11/06/2008 08:41:19 AM
YEA UNC at CHAPEL HILL!!!
Posted by: Catherine W at 11/06/2008 08:41:47 AM
SUNY Geneseo should have been #1. What an outstanding learning environment, with a wonderful faculty. My son is a Freshmen and this school is better than attending a private school. Every event they plan is a class act. I have found everyone who works there to be kind and helpful. The town of Geneseo, its people and the gorgeous Genesee Valley all add to the students success and experience there.
Posted by: sylvia at 11/06/2008 09:22:39 AM
I can not believe you left out East Carolina University in North Carolina. Our medical school, primary education and nursing, are top notch. Our alliance with University Health Care System is number one in robotic surgery. We are building a Cardiac Center that will be the top in the nation under Dr. Randolph Chitwood.
Posted by: Cecily at 11/06/2008 09:38:14 AM
What about the top City Universities of New York, since price and quality is actually being taken into account.
Posted by: Frank Marschino at 11/06/2008 09:40:51 AM
College costs continue to be overpriced for what you get, wherever you go, given the liberal indoctrination students get there ... witness their misguided support of Barry O'Bama in the election.
Posted by: Melanie Sarver at 11/06/2008 09:50:39 AM
Yea for Truman State University making the top 20! However, I must make a plea for my alma mater, a neighbor of Truman's, Northwest Missouri State University. Not only is it very affordable, but they include your books in the tuition! Anyone who has ever attended college should know what a difference that can make! While I was attending, every dorm room had a computer with internet access, and I think now they provide you with a laptop. In addition, they have focused on reducing their dependence on petroleum based fuels, and use steam to warm the sidewalks to reduce the amount of chemicals needed for de-icing in the winter. Hooray for environmental friendliness since the "Me" decade of the 80's!
Posted by: Alberta Patterson at 11/06/2008 10:02:29 AM
Alex Salomon said it all ...mainly about Temple University in Philadelphia. It was for me and my sister a wonderful school and we both learned so much there. You missed this one. It serves so many that probably couldn't afford a college education.
Posted by: William Ward at 11/06/2008 10:08:09 AM
My daughter attended The University of Mississippi (Ole Miss) undergraduate and graduate and my son attended graduate scholl. The tuition for them out (of) state was better than instate at the University of Missouri and the quality of education (at Ole Miss) was great!! I did not even see them in the top 100, but the University of Missouri was???????
Posted by: David at 11/06/2008 10:21:43 AM
More affordable than UGA or GA Tech in 1991 when I attended is Kennesaw State University. It has quickly become recognized as one of the better business schools in the US and has recieved many prestigious acccolades. I am not sure why it missed the cut as due to affordability, smaller class size and high standards the University has grown to become the 3rd largest University in the state with over 20 thousand students. I hope Kiplinger will take a closer look at my alma mater next time and take consideration as to why the explosive growth that has occured in recent years at Kennesaw State University. Wether a non traditional student going back to school like myself or a nineteen year old coming straight out of high school it is a great place to learn with a diversity of disciplines to select to major. Thank you KSU for the great education I received.
Posted by: Judy at 11/06/2008 10:22:44 AM
Why would you omit the senior colleges of the City University of New York? Several of them are among the best colleges in the country, public or private. Based on this, your research is, at best, faulty.
Posted by: Maja at 11/06/2008 11:41:57 AM
What about the University of Hawaii-Manoa? The tuition is very reasonable and the school has some great programs.
Posted by: Terry at 11/06/2008 12:04:07 PM
You totally missed the boat by not having Eastern Illinois University in Charleston, Illinois on your list. The text books are rented and not purchased savings hundreds of dollars per year. Not only should EIU have been on your list, but it should have been towards the top. You need to reevaluate your criteria for next year's list!!!
Posted by: jack at 11/06/2008 12:35:18 PM
What about colleges that have emerged within the past 10 years for working adults. Why isn't there more emphasis in terms of value and interest placed on these colleges; a growing segment within the academic community?
Posted by: Christina Renaud at 11/06/2008 02:04:22 PM
How about exploring the average salaries of graduates as well. What good is an inexpensive school if you cannot pay back your loans anyway? I think Massachusetts Maritime Academy and similar schools were completely neglected. I graduated from there TWICE and have less debt than many of my friends acquired in a single year in other schools. Also, most grads have significantly greater salaries than their peers.
Posted by: Kevin at 11/06/2008 08:37:01 PM
SUNY Geneseo was number 6 on the list and number 2 on the list for out of state tuition. They were number one last year. SUNY Binghamton and SUNY Geneseo are both the tier one public colleges that offer an excellant education. The difference is one is a universty while the other is a small liberal arts college.
Posted by: E F McLean at 11/07/2008 09:12:20 AM
UVA - great value, check. Great experiences, check. Accessibility to great students - nope. Admissions at UVA is overly competitive and drives away more amazing candidates with higher percentages each year. How can you put that up as a worthy target when these conditions drive admissions possibilities to become even more unrealistic? Consider next year's ratings to have an element of attainability.
Posted by: Diana at 11/07/2008 01:09:24 PM
What about the University of Kansas, Lawrence, Kansas? Last year it was number 1 in basketball, football, and debate. It has a very low tuition,is located in a great town, and is outstanding in many fields such as number 1 in undergraduate public administration. Why was it left out completely? Diana
Posted by: Joe Passmore at 11/08/2008 08:05:22 AM
You forgot to include the "best" university in the state of Texas, Texas Tech! Not only did they beat the University of Texas in football, but have excellent academic programs in all fields of study including law, medicine, and medical research. The current president of Tech is committed 100% to ensure each student's success. Tech is a beautiful campus with affordable tuiton, excellent academic programs, and terrific sports programs. My daughter and I both graduated from Texas Tech and we hold our education in highest regard.
Posted by: Brad at 11/21/2008 01:49:04 PM
Wow...I wonder if this list was generated by someone from the East? Thanks for throwing us west coasters a bone with that UCSD ranking there at #10. Come on people...there is civilization past the Mississippi river you know!
Posted by: Michael Hardiman at 11/24/2008 06:52:39 PM
I first heard about SUNY Geneseo from your rankings a few years back. Since then my daughter has gone on to attend and it is truly a hidden gem. It compares quite well to many high priced private liberal arts schools we visited and researched. The campus and town are beautiful, and the academic environment is excellent.
Posted by: Dave Gomberg at 12/04/2008 01:34:51 PM
I don't understand the rankings. I believe all UC campuses charge the same. So are they saying San Diego is much better academically than Berkeley????
Posted by: Laura Simonsen at 12/06/2008 08:24:22 PM
How can I compare NYIT (Manhattan campus) and Pace Univ for their advertising/Marketing programs?
Posted by: david at 12/16/2008 09:04:59 AM
At Georgia Tech, a large percentage of students participate in the co-operative program. This extends their schooling to at least 5 years, which is why the 4 year graduation rate is so low. A co-op student gains valuable, relevant work experience and earns quite a bit of money to pay college expenses.
Posted by: donna davis at 12/16/2008 09:22:46 AM
Where is WVU (West Virginia University) on this list? Our daughter goes there and it is a fantastic school for the money. The opportunities available to her are fantastic and out of state tuition is cheaper than being an instate student in PA!
Posted by: Kim at 12/16/2008 09:27:54 AM
Excuse me, I guess you think that University of Alabama is the only worthy school in Alabama. You obviously never visited or done the statistics on the University of Alabama at Birmingham. It is one of the top medical research schools in the country and Birmingham is great place to live. As you will see, the college tuition is comparable to Univ. of Alabama.
Posted by: Josh at 12/16/2008 10:12:35 AM
Ball State isn't even on the list? We have a great teaching program, a Nursing master's program that is top-notch, Architecture and Urban Planning among the tops in the nation, and the Entrepreneurship program that many of the nation's top business schools have either copied or pilfered from our faculty to recreate at their campus. Aside from that, half of the buildings on campus are new within the past 10 years, even though the campus is 90 years old. We were the #1 wireless university in the nation about 5-6 years ago, even before wireless internet was a big craze across campuses.
Posted by: Larry J at 12/16/2008 10:19:26 AM
For the most part, there is not that much difference in public universities. I would bet that most are very, very good. From a stand point of graduation success, that's a double edged sword. Is it because they have easier courses or just because they are starting out with better students. I separate the schools into Ivy League type, public, and other private. I'm sure going to Harvard will provide you with special connections and pedigree that you will not obtain elsewhere. But for the typical student that is a not a genius, public universities will provide you a very good education at a great price. The other private colleges in my opinion are for those students that really need educational assistance. The education is not as strong as public schools and cost a lot more. I am an employer that does not receive Ivy league resumes, only those from public other private colleges. I sort the ones I do get into public and private. Public University graduates go to the top of the pile....Although they would like to retain students, they do not have to retain them to maintain student population (revenues). On the other hand, private schools must recruit students. Every student that drops out must be replaced. This puts too much emphasis on retention (revenues)and thus classes end up being easier. As an example, I was an accounting student at the University of South Florida in the late 80's. I had one accounting class that started with 75 students and ended with 27. The other 48 changed majors to finance and general business or dropped out. I know how tough the curriculum was there and know if I get a graduate of that program, I will have a worker with a solid educational backround...(but) In the end I do not believe it will make that much difference for the average student if they went to State, U of , or Central. I tell my children to look at the cost, extra curricular activities, and work opportunities. I believe it is not a very good business decision to spend tens of thousands of dollars more to go to some school over another, unless you have an opportunity to go Ivy League.
Posted by: H. Burdock at 12/16/2008 10:48:42 AM
How do you rate the state universities? How do you rate my alma mater the University of New Mexico?
Posted by: Sharon at 12/16/2008 11:00:35 AM
You left off Slippery Rock University. It is a top notch state school in PA and they just built all new dorms and new buildings and it is ranked high in academics also. I am proud to have graduated from there.
Posted by: Randolph Raine at 12/16/2008 11:06:23 AM
A hard task with the ratings but going back to the old adage "you get out of things what you put in to it". Pound for pound, Virginia Military Intsitute should not be overlooked-producing "citizen soldiers" graduates with qualities that dollar for dollar other universities can not match.
Posted by: Jean Anderson at 12/16/2008 11:07:07 AM
I was upset to not see Temple University on the list. I went to Temple as an out of state student and received an excellent education for an afforadable amount of money. Temple's student diversity, career services and alumni network are fantastic. I graduated from Temple with 3 internships under my belt and was much more prepared for the working world than many of my friends who went to other "elite" schools. I was also able to afford to study abroad at Temple's Rome, Italy campus which was a life changing experience. Temple University gives many students who thought they would never have a chance, to go to a great university. This is one of the best qualities of the school and why I am proud to say I am an alumni of Temple University.
Posted by: Matthew Lee at 12/16/2008 11:07:29 AM
Where is West Virginia University? Is it because it is placed in West Virginia? WVU has many accredited and respected colleges and is a fine institution. Not number 1, but definitely more deserving than some of the ones I see on this list.
Posted by: Pattie Overduin at 12/16/2008 11:12:25 AM
My understanding is that UC schools are recognized for their academic excellence. Why wasn't UC Merced listed as one of the best value colleges? The price is right for a great education and the cost of living for a student in Merced is less expensive that living in San Diego or Los Angeles.
Posted by: Richard Krapfel at 12/16/2008 11:22:48 AM
How could you overlook UNCC, the University of North Carolina Charlotte????
Posted by: Terri at 12/16/2008 11:47:05 AM
Kiplinger missed on this one--its list doesn't include CUNY-Baruch, which appears on Princeton Review's 2008 list of "America's Best Value Colleges." The college is recognized not only as one of the nation's "best value" undergraduate institutions, but also as one of it's best value graduate institutions, with its part-time MBA program ranking in the nation's top 25.
Posted by: Grandpa at 12/16/2008 12:05:21 PM
I noticed all the branches of the University of California. What I didn't see was any mention of the State University System such as San Diego, Long Beach or Fresno State. When I as young, they were a cheaper alternative to the University of California. My daughter attended the University of South Dakota. I thought she got a good affordable education. The only downside was weather which is less than ideal.
Posted by: smr at 12/16/2008 02:00:48 PM
What about UNC- Charlotte, more student population, less cost! It looks like you picked every other major university but Charlotte! Wake up, UNCC has engineering school and lots of good options.
Posted by: Sara at 12/16/2008 02:51:27 PM
What about WVU? Outstanding faculty, resonable tuition and Morgantown is one of the best small cities on the east coast.
Posted by: HD at 12/16/2008 03:02:54 PM
Your readers need to be aware that most of the listings are of University Systems, most of which are comprised of numerous campuses. Texas A&M University System is comprised of eight Universities.
Posted by: TK at 12/16/2008 03:10:43 PM
I have been closely associated with at least four State Universities - currently I am an employee at SUNY Buffalo. In my opinion, based on the cost of living, quality of education, course and degree offering etc I think SUNY Buffalo easily ranks among the top 25 State Universities in the country. So I am somewhat surprised to see that SUNY B did not make it to even the top 100 institutions. I understand that this is a very subjective and non scientific process, but even by your rather superficial standards this list is rubbish. I think that you are doing a disservice to the public by misleading them with such articles.
Posted by: bob white at 12/16/2008 03:23:36 PM
I don't understand, based on the criteria evaluated, how or why Texas Tech University does not appear near the top. It's an excellent school and an emerging research university, and its tuition costs are much less than most of those that appear on this list.
Posted by: John at 12/16/2008 05:45:46 PM
What about Fort Hays State University in Kansas? It's a little gem in North Central Kansas. If you are looking for an excellent place to go to college with affordable tuition and teaching excellence... I would check them out. They also lead the State of Kansas and most of the other states in online distance education. I have 2 degrees from there and I am very happy. I am always impressed with the President of FHSU... he is a very gifted man who has kept the University thriving. In my opinion, it is worth it to check them out.
Posted by: reggie cannon at 12/16/2008 10:28:24 PM
I guess it is no surprise that East Carolina University could be overlooked. They often get over looked or overshadowed in the state of North Carolina. However they do have a national leading medical school, art school, nursing school, teaching school and business school and many outstand programs. I have attended ECU and other NC universities and now have children who attend ECU and a graduated from NCSU. I think the state of NC is very fortunate to have such great universities and college towns. Greenville has to be one of the best atmospheres for a college and a great university.
Posted by: Virginia at 01/07/2009 08:12:38 PM
You did not list University of North Carolina at Charlotte and it has a great reputation in Charlotte with over 25,000 students and competes well with a reasonable costs to attend there. Why wasn't it listed along with Asheville and Wilmington which are much smaller??
Posted by: Jennifer at 01/09/2009 12:28:52 AM
I'm surprised that UC Irvine and UC Santa Barbara outranked UC Davis. In the US News and World Report college rankings, UC Davis consistently outranks UCSB and UCI. Additionally, living in Davis is much cheaper than living in Santa Barbara, Isla Vista, or Orange County. In the past, Davis has won awards for "Best Value" and I'm puzzled as to why it would be outranked by two other University of California campuses.
Posted by: Ron Deeds at 01/10/2009 04:06:45 PM
Doubting that anyone will actually read this post, I feel I must provide a post regardless. MARSHALL UNIVERSITY, in Huntington, WV should have been listed. I have two daughters seperated by 2 years in age attending. Oldest is achieving her masters and youngest will be completing an RN. The beauty of a university level education in West Virginia, not just Marshall, but West Virginia University and others as well, is that the state of WV provides what is called a PROMISE SCHOLARSHIP for in state graduating high school seniors to an in-state university who score decently on the SAT/ACT tests and have something like a B average or so in high school. All tuition is completely 100% paid for in the form of a waiver. You still have to buy your own books, and room/board. I will now have two daughters with great degree's for a university who otherwise would have bankrupted me. Incidently, Marshall is the home of sports legends Chad Pennington, Byron Leftwich, Randy Moss and others, if you're into that. Two years ago the movie WE ARE MARSHALL played in theaters nationwide as well. Don't the people (who) do these polls attend the movies? :)
Posted by: Jon at 01/10/2009 11:41:03 PM
As a proud Temple University parent, I'm hoping that Temple's absence from this list is only because even some college rankings magazines don't know that Temple (at about ten grand a year) is public.
Posted by: Julie S at 01/19/2009 09:10:52 AM
Right on to Larry J and Christine Renaud! As the parent of a freshman student at one of the private(non-Ivy)schools listed in the top 50, we are encouraging #2 son to explore schools such as Mass Maritime Academy. Luckily, #1 son was fortunate to get a merit scholarship to dad's alma mater and others. He could have had a shot at NESCACs(mini-Ivy)for the "connections" if he was willing to apply. We were able to talk him out of PC for the reasons stated by both Larry and Chris. It's better than nothing. Good luck to all parents and students during these difficult economic time. Be smart.
Posted by: Jane Clark at 01/22/2009 02:59:46 PM
Hi, I'm the author of this story and also work with our research team to review the numbers that make up the Kiplinger's rankings. These rankings represent our assessment of value based on quality, including student-faculty ratio and graduation rates, and cost, both the retail price and the cost after financial aid has been applied. We believe it's a fair assessment, and we know it's an objective one. We also recognize that there are many other colleges and universities around the country that offer students a fine education and, often, a life-changing experience. By the way, I do know about Marshall University: My great-grandfather was a president of Marshall, and my family was excited to see his portrait in the wonderful movie "We Are Marshall." Thanks for taking a look at our rankings. We hope you find value in them.
Posted by: Kathleen Long at 01/29/2009 04:36:11 PM
When my older son applied to W&M in Spring of 2007, I knew he'd get in - he'd already completed 2 years of college by completing Governor's School - I just didn't know how we'd pay for it. He was given a free ride! This was due to his hard work and need (his father is a UM Minister). He loves W&M and recently returned from a Wesley Foundation/Study Abroad Pilgrimage to Israel. His younger brother has been so impressed (even though he calls W&M a "hippie school") that he will be applying in 2010!
Posted by: Bo at 01/29/2009 04:37:17 PM
1 – Happiest Students 1 – Jock Schools (popularity of intercollegiate and intramural sports) 2 – Town-Gown Relations 6 – Best Quality of Life 7 – Best Athletic Facilities 7 – Students Pack the Stadiums (intercollegiate sports are popular) 8 – Best Career/Job Placement Services 8 – Everyone Plays Intramural Sports 20 – School Runs Like Butter (administration gets high marks) These are some of the rankings achieved by Clemson University, where I matriculated from. There. definitely is something in them there hills!
Posted by: Larry Coan at 02/03/2009 10:46:39 PM
11(schools) out of (top) 100. NY State University Program truly rocks. Not to mention the few 100 other High Quality ( with higher costs) Colleges here in NY, add to that the associated CC Community College networks that feed all these & countless other out-of-state Colleges. BTW check out the actual costs of both the CCs & Suny colleges (even less if you commute). I won't forget the number of High Quality High Schools in NY that feeds them. Proud to be a Yankee with where a Good Education can be had by all who are willing to apply themselves regardless of Social or Economic status.
Posted by: Pam at 02/03/2009 11:10:45 PM
Okay, so I know I have a bias, but I really think #11 University of Washington is a major stretch. Looking at the two major universities in Washington, UW charges more per year than WSU. In addition, UW hasn't used their money well, as they are now asking the state government for $300 million to fix their falling apart stadium. WSU has fixed up their stadium without using major state resources.
Posted by: Kaitlyn at 02/04/2009 12:18:26 AM
Hi. Just a thought, but West Virginia University is cheaper than 99 of these selections and a prominent University... (not to mention in state scholarship that completely pays all of tuition) is there a reason it didn't make the cut?
Posted by: Mark at 02/04/2009 01:26:00 AM
The biggest misses I see are in leaving off East Carolina and WVU. ECU and WVU are both big public schools that deliver a tremendous bang for the buck. I live in eastern carolina and graduated with an MS from ECU. I can't begin to count how many of my peers that graduated from UNC and Duke have told me that when they look at how much money they still owe in student loans, they wish that they'd gone to ECU. UNC is simply not a realistic option for most of the eastern side of the state. And both Greenville and Morgantown give an outstanding all-around college-town experience. They both also offer beautiful, state-of-the-art, medical campuses and medical education that rivals the top schools in your list.
Posted by: Josh at 02/12/2009 11:10:10 AM
It's pretty sad that so many people come on here just to complain that they're school didn't get the respect they think it deserved. This article was based on research and the numbers don't lie, get over it. I was acutally really surprised that my alma matter even made it onto the list! But, number 56 isn't that bad! GO VIKINGS!
Posted by: Gail at 02/12/2009 08:52:24 PM
I am taken aback that East Carolina University, Greenville, NC was not ranked above several of the North Carolina Schools. It continues to expand in all areas of the health fields and is going to have a School of Dentistry. Top quality university for the money and available academia areas. I am really disappointed.
Posted by: Joseph at 02/25/2009 01:39:04 PM
I just don't get it. My daughter wanted to go to one of the big, Catholic/Jesuit colleges in the East. She was accepted by them all, and in the end was considering BC, Holy Cross, and Fordham. She was a top high school student with As and A+s in all the toughest honors and AP courses. She had 700s on her SATs and 5s on all her AP tests. BC was the most expensive and offered her the least money ($5000). Holy Cross offered her $7000. Both of these offers were based on need (My wife and I are teachers. We do OK, but $50,000 a year is a lot). Fordham offered her a merit scholarship, their Dean's Scholarship, which, in the end, totaled $16,000. Academically, they are all pretty much equal, so she's at Fordham today, a beautiful campus at Rose Hill in a very nice part of the Bronx, and the Lincoln Center Campus too, and New York City to boot. For us Fordham was definitely the best value. Yet Fordham isn't even mentioned by you, while BC and Holy Cross, stingy by comparison, make your list. It makes me think that you can't believe everything you read in the papers. BTW, BC offered my daughter's friend a $25,000 scholarship this year. She's not half the student my daughter was last year (which is OK), and both of her parents are dentists, who make four times what my wife and I do. So it's not a need-based scholarship. Oh, she's a state champion distance runner. BC is definitely a better value for top athletes, not necessarily for top students, despite its so called Ivy League ambitions.
Posted by: Kevin at 03/07/2009 09:32:14 AM
Geneseo has always been a great choice for high achieving students. Great LAC in NY which you sometimes have to remind yourself that it is not a private college. In these difficult economic times if you get accepted I would recommend attending. Biggest bang for the buck!
Posted by: Brion at 03/23/2009 01:58:05 PM
Typical that all Cal State schools would be snubbed. This is the most affordable and valuable education in CA....
Posted by: Cecil at 04/01/2009 09:59:00 PM
...They only mention SUNY Binghamton out of 4 public universities in NY and don't mention Stony Brook University, which is a high research university by the Carnegie Foundation and has at least 4 noble prize winners including fields such as in medicine (invention of the MRI), Physics, economics (gaming theory), 4 other professors along with A.Gore on Climate Change. Aside from quality of education all these schools this article appears to memtion are in very low cost of living areas. Is this even normalized in their ranking of "Best Value of Public Colleges".... EDITOR'S NOTE: Cecil, had you clicked through to Rankings At a Glance, at http://www.kiplinger.com/tools/colleges/ataglance.html, you would have seen that 9 of NY's public universities made our top 100 list, including Stony Brook at 38th. Hope this helps.
Posted by: Oceana at 04/18/2009 10:59:19 PM
Brion, Cal Poly is a Cal State school.
Posted by: Chelsea at 05/13/2009 08:52:59 PM
I graduated from The University of Oklahoma last year (08). I am a Texas resident and elected against going to a Texas school. Out-of-State I paid about 14-16k a year at OU where the Texas in-state tuition was 14k at Texas and 13k at TAMU. I received a phenomenal education at a great University and I was very disappointed to see that OU didn't rank higher. Albeit I have a personal bias, I felt their price was excellent. I graduated easily in 4 years (with a major change). My advisors did a good job and stressing academic excellence and establishing a plan early on to make sure I could get though everything in 4 years. BOOMER SOONER!
Posted by: Jill Burstein at 05/13/2009 08:54:00 PM
I think anytime journalists have opinions about any kind of rankings they should keep them to themselves. No one is capable of really evaluating the "worth" of any college in a way that is anything but fundamental or rudimentary. I am a independent educational consultant who will continue to rail against any kind of ranking system.
Posted by: John at 05/13/2009 09:06:50 PM
It's great that you daughter received more money from Fordham than from BC or even Holy Cross. That is understandable because there is a significant difference in perceived reputation, deserved or not. J
Posted by: Mike Ianniello at 05/13/2009 09:25:54 PM
What about UMASS at Dartmouth-which is just as good as UMASS Amherst, yet is never mentioned
Posted by: Pat Spanjer at 05/13/2009 09:38:14 PM
You truly missed the boat not including Eastern Washington University in your list! EWU is a great value, provides a top-notch education, offers more than 100 degrees (many recently added, highly sought-after degrees with promising employability potential for today's workforce), small class sizes and a beautiful campus. Check it out at www.ewu.edu
Posted by: Richard Dunn at 05/13/2009 09:42:00 PM
Why does USC (University of Southern California) annually get 33,000 applications for a freshman class of 5000-6000 and is not ranked?
Posted by: Heidi at 05/13/2009 10:07:53 PM
UVa, is an awesome university/hospital.. it is about time they got the recognition they deserved...I live but 30 min away from it and having been a patient there and with a rare heart condition...I've always felt like if they couldn't answer your question they will find someone who can..at any great lengths, I get used to being the guinea pig for the students to listen to my heart, it doesn't bother me, it sounds funny and if it helps them to help someone learn, then so be it...Go UVa, you rock!
Posted by: Joseph Kerr at 05/13/2009 10:30:13 PM
Where's Florida Gulf Coast University
Posted by: Reyes at 05/13/2009 11:20:42 PM
I agree with Joseph, if your kid is at the top of their class, they get very little fiancial aid, but if they can run fast or hit a ball, they "knock it out of the park" financially speacking. When did universities stop caring about intelligence and start caring about sports? I have a daughter who accomplished more in high school than some of her classmates who got into Harvard.Proof of this is available. The problem was she couldn't run as fast as them. This isn't sour grapes, this is a fact. Joseph's comments are spot on.
Posted by: catamount at 05/14/2009 01:02:15 AM
It seems as if Western Carolina University is always neglected. This particular institute is extremely affordable, most aid is met, and we excel in several progams and have national recognition in many areas. No, we don't have the amazing college town, but we do have the beautiful mountains, and the small student/faculty ratio that allows for wonderful interactions foster learning for both the student and the teacher.
Posted by: linda Toz at 05/14/2009 01:24:35 AM
Personally wonder where Temple in Philadelphia is on this list! It is only celebrating 125 years!
Posted by: susanne at 05/14/2009 04:27:26 AM
My daughter is graduating from UVA this weekend. She has a 3.7 in Psychology. Halfway through her career she decided she wanted to take art courses. Guess what? She couldn't get into any since she was a psych major. So she took art courses in the architecture school and the business school. The college of arts and sciences wouldn't let her take any classes in art. (Cutbacks, not enough teachers, too full classes). When we complained to the dean, he told my daughter her retribution would be to not ever donate any money to the university. He was serious!!!! We paid full out-of-state tuition. Both my husband and I graduated from UVA, and I would think twice before sending my child there. There are lots of schools that are better bang for your buck and the reputation is hyped, over-rated. I loved my years there and got a great education but it isn't the same university. Send your child to a two year college and then have them transfer. Much cheaper and easily done. All the big name schools leave spots for transfers. I taught at a community college that accepted a transfer student at Harvard! Imagine paying $300 a course for two years before you have to fork out the big bucks! Many of the community colleges have wonderful offerings and dedicated teachers. Food for thought.
Posted by: Patrick Grady at 05/14/2009 11:16:27 AM
One other thing to think about;is a college education even worth it anymore. Unless you are going into a field that requires advanced training, most college educations are never used by the people who get them. We simply use a college degree to weed out those "less educated" and therefore undeserving of a job with a major corporation. Look at what all those college educated people did to our economy. I have a degree, own my own company and not one thing I learned in school helped me accomplish that goal. On the other hand, college did teach me how to DRINK. We need to rework our view on college and all those liberal professors. Who needs em? Patrick Grady www.bigmediasales.com
Posted by: Sandra at 05/22/2009 07:00:34 PM
We will send our 4th son to the Univ. of FL in August. It indeed has been a great value---quality education along with the Florida Bright Futures scholarships. Two sons graduated with no debt (working plus living very cheaply with a lot of beans, rice, and deer meat!)and the oldest son with some loans largely from spending a year studying abroad. Go Gators!
Posted by: Margo Peel at 06/21/2009 10:48:46 AM
How on earth did you manage to overlook Kansas State University? A diverse school with lots to offer, College of Architecture, Engineering, a solid Bachelor of Arts program, etc. and of course their Agricultural College. This University does not charge much for tuition for either in-state nor out-of-state students.
Posted by: Kevin at 08/26/2009 10:29:29 PM
Check Out SUNY Geneseo. Top students, professors and academic programs and you can beat the price! Geneseo appears at the top of every list of national college rankings. This is a Public school in NY with the look and feel of a private college! Most recently in US News and World Report SUNY Geneseo was ranked #4 of 80 Best Colleges for its focus on undergraduate education. Class of 2013 Stats: SAT 1340, Avg. 94, 60% of incomming freshmen rank in the top 10% of their class.
Posted by: Patricia at 09/15/2009 05:37:40 AM
Both my son and daughter attended SUNY Geneseo. Geneseo truly delivers what it promises. Top academics, bright students and professors who are dedicated to undergraduate education. US News last year identified Geneseo as an "up and comming" school and this year identified it as one of 80 schools dedicated to undergraduate education. The college has the look and feel of a private liberal arts college but with a public school price. I encourage all parents and students to take a second look at GENESEO!!!
Posted by: Kevin kasmar at 10/06/2009 02:49:36 PM
I don't understand how OSU is ranked higher than UofI (Urbana)? My daughter and I just looked at both and Illinois is much harder to get into than OSU, by several ACT points and GPA.
Posted by: Emmalee at 11/22/2009 09:58:50 PM
I'm surprised not to see my university, the University of Idaho listed. I pay less as a WUE (Western Undergraduate Exchange) student - 150% of in-state tuition - than I would as an in-state student at the University of Oregon and about the same as I would pay at Cal Poly - SLO as an in-state student (my parents are divorced and live in separate states). In fact, I compared Oregon State, Cal Poly, and Idaho when initially looking at colleges and believe I have gotten the best value at Idaho.Not only are the campus facilities wonderful at Idaho, but the tuition is low. Idaho residents pay $4,500+/- a year for tuition and fees at Idaho. Technically, they don't pay any tuition because the state constitution forbids it. I really would challenge this ranking because Idaho isn't even in the top 100.
Posted by: Ryan Brown at 12/03/2009 04:17:05 PM
I began my college education at the University of California at Berkeley 20 years ago however, due to health problems, I had to leave after my sophomore year without graduating. While I have had a successful career, my goal is still to receive my degree and probably continue to a Master's degree. Because I live in a semi-rural area of Colorado currently, I would like to complete my degree online. does anybody know of any highly reputable programs that offer online degree completion? When I search I get bombarded by adds by the "for profits" and this is not exactly what I am looking for. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Posted by: Chris Burns at 01/03/2010 12:24:21 PM
In 5 years University Of MARYLAND (College Park) will be the # 1 public university.
Posted by: shelby moss at 01/15/2010 08:51:28 PM
Tell me - just where does Hunter College (CUNY) fit in?
Posted by: J Devitt at 01/21/2010 05:22:39 PM
I thought that South Dakota School of Mines and Technology was quite high (#9 as I recall) on the list just two or three years ago. Does this mean that in a couple years it has fallen below the 100 mark. Hard to believe